Resilience, Grit, Toughness and Learning How to Do Hard Things


In this behind-the-scenes podcast, Brad interviews Steve on his new book Do Hard Things. Where did the idea for the book come from? How do you go from an idea of “fake toughness” to a fleshed-out framework for the real thing? What are the biggest myths about resilience that trip people up? How do you know when to keeping going versus quit? All of these questions and more are answered in this week’s podcast.

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The Atlantic story on primate science mentioned in the show is here.

Steve’s interview with Rich Roll, where he goes into detail on his experience as a whistle blower, is here.


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